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Google's insight on Codex Articles
Haluk Karamete
2014-01-27 17:32:02 UTC
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This is not a WP question but I just got curious this morning.

I was doing a google search on "get_template_part".
First hit ( as the screenshot I attached illustrates ) was showing
Konstantin's codex post and his pic.
Knowing him and how much he loves and knows about get_template_part, I was
not surprised much that I saw him up there.

But what puzzled me was the fact that it was a codex article, but yet his
picture was lined up with that. If it was an article from his web site,
that would not be surprising.

I've examined the codex page, (which is located at
http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/get_template_part ) and I
could not see his name as the author of this page;
The only section on that page that had to do with his name was the section
titled "External Resources" and that was about it.

Then I dived into the source HTML to see, maybe there is an meta tag or
something of that sort for Google bot to pick that insight. But, that
wasn't the case neither.

And this is happening to many other codex articles.

I'm perplexed at the Google's insight in being able to author's pic pic on
those codex articles - even though the HTML source has nothing to say on
that.

Anyone has an idea?
Andrew Nacin
2014-01-27 17:36:11 UTC
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Yeah, we tracked this down a few months ago for another article. It's the
"by Konstantin Kovshenin" in the "External Resources" section that Google
picks up on.
Post by Haluk Karamete
This is not a WP question but I just got curious this morning.
I was doing a google search on "get_template_part".
First hit ( as the screenshot I attached illustrates ) was showing
Konstantin's codex post and his pic.
Knowing him and how much he loves and knows about get_template_part, I was
not surprised much that I saw him up there.
But what puzzled me was the fact that it was a codex article, but yet his
picture was lined up with that. If it was an article from his web site,
that would not be surprising.
I've examined the codex page, (which is located at
http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/get_template_part ) and I
could not see his name as the author of this page;
The only section on that page that had to do with his name was the section
titled "External Resources" and that was about it.
Then I dived into the source HTML to see, maybe there is an meta tag or
something of that sort for Google bot to pick that insight. But, that
wasn't the case neither.
And this is happening to many other codex articles.
I'm perplexed at the Google's insight in being able to author's pic pic on
those codex articles - even though the HTML source has nothing to say on
that.
Anyone has an idea?
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Haluk Karamete
2014-01-27 17:50:33 UTC
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Was that codex article written by him to begin with?
I think those articles do not belong to an individual as it's the result of
an collaborated effort.
The fact that Google makes it appear like, the article is written by that
person is not only misleading but also prone to errors. I'm surprised that
this is really what's happening here.

Here is another article but this one does NOT show his picture even though
his name also appears under the external resources. Go figure! :)

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=settings+api&oq=settings+&gs_l=serp.3.0.35i39j0i20j0j0i20j0l6.127824.128865.0.130365.9.8.0.0.0.0.198.926.2j6.8.0....0...1c.1.32.serp..5.4.319.FH4Chodd4Xw

http://codex.wordpress.org/Settings_API
Post by Andrew Nacin
Yeah, we tracked this down a few months ago for another article. It's the
"by Konstantin Kovshenin" in the "External Resources" section that Google
picks up on.
Post by Haluk Karamete
This is not a WP question but I just got curious this morning.
I was doing a google search on "get_template_part".
First hit ( as the screenshot I attached illustrates ) was showing
Konstantin's codex post and his pic.
Knowing him and how much he loves and knows about get_template_part, I
was
Post by Haluk Karamete
not surprised much that I saw him up there.
But what puzzled me was the fact that it was a codex article, but yet his
picture was lined up with that. If it was an article from his web site,
that would not be surprising.
I've examined the codex page, (which is located at
http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/get_template_part ) and I
could not see his name as the author of this page;
The only section on that page that had to do with his name was the
section
Post by Haluk Karamete
titled "External Resources" and that was about it.
Then I dived into the source HTML to see, maybe there is an meta tag or
something of that sort for Google bot to pick that insight. But, that
wasn't the case neither.
And this is happening to many other codex articles.
I'm perplexed at the Google's insight in being able to author's pic pic
on
Post by Haluk Karamete
those codex articles - even though the HTML source has nothing to say on
that.
Anyone has an idea?
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Andrew Nacin
2014-01-27 17:55:30 UTC
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Post by Haluk Karamete
Was that codex article written by him to begin with?
I doubt it.
Post by Haluk Karamete
I think those articles do not belong to an individual as it's the result of
an collaborated effort.
Of course. We agree. I'm sure Konstantin does too.
Post by Haluk Karamete
The fact that Google makes it appear like, the article is written by that
person is not only misleading but also prone to errors. I'm surprised that
this is really what's happening here.
This is what is happening here.

http://codex.wordpress.org/Settings_API


Probably because Google would have to list 11 people. :-)
Otto
2014-01-27 17:56:19 UTC
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We did some testing in a case where Mark Jaiquith's authorship info
was showing up on an article.

It's definitely the "by name" line at the end of the article that
causes it to happen. In cases where there is more than one byline,
Google isn't as likely to make the bad assumption.

As yet, we do not have a good solution for this, but it hasn't really
been a pressing matter.

-Otto


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Haluk Karamete
Post by Haluk Karamete
Was that codex article written by him to begin with?
I think those articles do not belong to an individual as it's the result of
an collaborated effort.
The fact that Google makes it appear like, the article is written by that
person is not only misleading but also prone to errors. I'm surprised that
this is really what's happening here.
Here is another article but this one does NOT show his picture even though
his name also appears under the external resources. Go figure! :)
https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=settings+api&oq=settings+&gs_l=serp.3.0.35i39j0i20j0j0i20j0l6.127824.128865.0.130365.9.8.0.0.0.0.198.926.2j6.8.0....0...1c.1.32.serp..5.4.319.FH4Chodd4Xw
http://codex.wordpress.org/Settings_API
Post by Andrew Nacin
Yeah, we tracked this down a few months ago for another article. It's the
"by Konstantin Kovshenin" in the "External Resources" section that Google
picks up on.
Post by Haluk Karamete
This is not a WP question but I just got curious this morning.
I was doing a google search on "get_template_part".
First hit ( as the screenshot I attached illustrates ) was showing
Konstantin's codex post and his pic.
Knowing him and how much he loves and knows about get_template_part, I
was
Post by Haluk Karamete
not surprised much that I saw him up there.
But what puzzled me was the fact that it was a codex article, but yet his
picture was lined up with that. If it was an article from his web site,
that would not be surprising.
I've examined the codex page, (which is located at
http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/get_template_part ) and I
could not see his name as the author of this page;
The only section on that page that had to do with his name was the
section
Post by Haluk Karamete
titled "External Resources" and that was about it.
Then I dived into the source HTML to see, maybe there is an meta tag or
something of that sort for Google bot to pick that insight. But, that
wasn't the case neither.
And this is happening to many other codex articles.
I'm perplexed at the Google's insight in being able to author's pic pic
on
Post by Haluk Karamete
those codex articles - even though the HTML source has nothing to say on
that.
Anyone has an idea?
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Haluk Karamete
2014-01-27 18:08:06 UTC
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I'm totally fine with whoever pics show up there. Plus I always admired his
hair style. :)

I was just trying to get to the bottom of how the heck Google pulls that
relationship off without a meta tag.
Post by Otto
We did some testing in a case where Mark Jaiquith's authorship info
was showing up on an article.
It's definitely the "by name" line at the end of the article that
causes it to happen. In cases where there is more than one byline,
Google isn't as likely to make the bad assumption.
As yet, we do not have a good solution for this, but it hasn't really
been a pressing matter.
-Otto
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Haluk Karamete
Post by Haluk Karamete
Was that codex article written by him to begin with?
I think those articles do not belong to an individual as it's the result
of
Post by Haluk Karamete
an collaborated effort.
The fact that Google makes it appear like, the article is written by that
person is not only misleading but also prone to errors. I'm surprised
that
Post by Haluk Karamete
this is really what's happening here.
Here is another article but this one does NOT show his picture even
though
Post by Haluk Karamete
his name also appears under the external resources. Go figure! :)
https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=settings+api&oq=settings+&gs_l=serp.3.0.35i39j0i20j0j0i20j0l6.127824.128865.0.130365.9.8.0.0.0.0.198.926.2j6.8.0....0...1c.1.32.serp..5.4.319.FH4Chodd4Xw
Post by Haluk Karamete
http://codex.wordpress.org/Settings_API
Post by Andrew Nacin
Yeah, we tracked this down a few months ago for another article. It's
the
Post by Haluk Karamete
Post by Andrew Nacin
"by Konstantin Kovshenin" in the "External Resources" section that
Google
Post by Haluk Karamete
Post by Andrew Nacin
picks up on.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Haluk Karamete <
Post by Haluk Karamete
This is not a WP question but I just got curious this morning.
I was doing a google search on "get_template_part".
First hit ( as the screenshot I attached illustrates ) was showing
Konstantin's codex post and his pic.
Knowing him and how much he loves and knows about get_template_part, I
was
Post by Haluk Karamete
not surprised much that I saw him up there.
But what puzzled me was the fact that it was a codex article, but yet
his
Post by Haluk Karamete
Post by Andrew Nacin
Post by Haluk Karamete
picture was lined up with that. If it was an article from his web
site,
Post by Haluk Karamete
Post by Andrew Nacin
Post by Haluk Karamete
that would not be surprising.
I've examined the codex page, (which is located at
http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/get_template_part )
and I
Post by Haluk Karamete
Post by Andrew Nacin
Post by Haluk Karamete
could not see his name as the author of this page;
The only section on that page that had to do with his name was the
section
Post by Haluk Karamete
titled "External Resources" and that was about it.
Then I dived into the source HTML to see, maybe there is an meta tag
or
Post by Haluk Karamete
Post by Andrew Nacin
Post by Haluk Karamete
something of that sort for Google bot to pick that insight. But, that
wasn't the case neither.
And this is happening to many other codex articles.
I'm perplexed at the Google's insight in being able to author's pic
pic
Post by Haluk Karamete
Post by Andrew Nacin
on
Post by Haluk Karamete
those codex articles - even though the HTML source has nothing to say
on
Post by Haluk Karamete
Post by Andrew Nacin
Post by Haluk Karamete
that.
Anyone has an idea?
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